John P. Milton is a pioneering ecologist and spiritual teacher, with decades of experience in his background. As their mentor, he recently gave an interview to my partners at Back to the Wild, a conversation full of deep insights and a practical tip.

In his first vision quest over 70 years ago, John got to know the power of nature. He has spent his life studying the spiritual aspects of nature and, as an ecologist, also dealt with it scientifically. In the 1970s, he was the first ecologist on staff at the White House, working with the US President’s Council of Economic Advisors. John combines scientific-ecological thinking with the spiritual and emotional openness of a spiritual seeker.

Take the time to listen to these words of wisdom, reminding of the wind, coming from a far off place: